What did you use for supports / to "hang" the screen?
We had one of THESE (click that link to see it) at the church already, so we bought 2 more - giving us enough to hang all three screens. We simply used a lightweight rope (clothes line type) to thread through the grommets along the top of the screen, looping the rope up and over the bar. Then for the bottom left & right corner we used thin bungie cords to hold the screen taunt, but not stretch it.
Rear projection.
Is this using one projector or three?
Three.
How far away from the screen did you have to put the projector?
Good question. I don't know. :-( Sorry. My guess though is 10-13ft. Why a guess? Because this was a temporary setup that we did for a Winter Teen Retreat we did at a Christian camp. This is not setup at our church for me to go measure it - and, I didn't measure it when we did it. All I did was setup the 3 projectors on tables right up against the wall - then setup the screens and moved them away from the projectors till the image size was correct. You could do similar with your projector... to see if you have enough room for this sort of thing in the space you have to work with.
What projector did you use?
Nothing special - just what we already had at the church. Benq SH910 I'd recommend that anyone trying this use the brightest (highest lumens) projectors you can find. Makes a BIG difference as to the crispness of the picture.
Does it have to be completely dark in the room to use this?
No. But, the darker the better... as is the case for all rear projection setups. They work by passing light THROUGH the screen, and catching part of that light to create an image on the screen. So, this "strength" becomes a negative if there is a lot of other light sources in the room. Ambient light (sun!) is the worst. Really washes out the screens picture (lumens can't compete with sun).
No, just one computer.
- We use a piece of hardware called a TripleHead2Go. HERE'S A LINK (click on that to go there) to a website that sells them, including pictures as to how it works. Here's a picture though to show you the basic setup - only difference is I was using projectors, and in this pic, they are using monitors.
- We are also using a dedicated program called ProPresentor, (click on that to go there) with an add on module giving us total control of all 3 screens. The TripleHead2Go will split any signal (well, basically) but with ProPresentor you can then control what content goes to which screens - both the video, and any text or graphics you put over the video. Pretty nice. Pricy, but we use it for church so, it wasn't an expense for this screen project / we already had this.
- Simply edit any footage (think "crop" like you would for pictures, but with video) you have to fit this odd screen size. For me, I do this with Final Cut Pro ("X" currently, but that'll change as they keep updating the software) by exporting the footage through a Mac program / app called "Compressor." This program allows you to "crop" to virtually any size you want.
- Buy footage that is made to work on a triple wide display. I recommend and use THESE GUYS (click on that to go there) - they are the best of the best at this - and when you buy ONE screen size, you actually get all THREE sizes - triple screen width, double screen width and single / normal. Nice.
Is there anything cooler / more awesome than a triplewide display?
Yes. "Environmental Projection" - you can see a sample of the setup for it (same as whats "behind" the screens in my YouTube video) and some illustrations of its use in this video.
Yes. "Environmental Projection" - you can see a sample of the setup for it (same as whats "behind" the screens in my YouTube video) and some illustrations of its use in this video.
Here is us playing with Environmental Projection in our little church - using just 2 projectors, instead of 3. Still using the TripleHead2Go to do it, just with only 2 outputs being used, instead of 3. And... using 2 junky projectors / stuff we had laying around the church. You can clearly see the differing brightness / lumen levels between them. Not good. For multi-screen or environmental projection, you ideally want all of your projectors to be identical in brightness - so there is no difference in color brightness across the entire width of the picture (spanning all 3 projectors).
Any other questions, feel free to contact me, "Pastor Mark" through our church websites contact page www.ImperfectChurch.com (click on that to go there). Email is better than by phone. Do read the info in the "About" section under the original YouTube video (first one up above) first though, as between that info, and the info here, you should find most of the info you are looking for.
Hope this helps,
Pastor Mark
Hi! What an amazing application of your talents and resources for the glory of God!
ReplyDeleteI am interested in a home theater setup using rear projection. Did you have any issues with hot spots? I was thinking it might be prudent to double up on the screen material, and also am wondering if we should project at an angle, or directly behind the screen?
Thanks for sharing your clever idea, and extra thanks for sharing the love of Jesus!
Thanks for the kind words.
DeleteOn hot spots, yes, if you place the projector right behind the screen you will see through the screen to the projector / you'll see the light coming out of the projector. If you notice in my video I had a black sheet wrapped around the supports that where holding up the screen. I had my projectors on a table behind those... shining up at a slight angle. So, from the perspective of the audience / viewers... all they saw was the image being projected on the screen as the projector itself was "below" / "behind" the black curtain.
As for the idea of doubling up the screen material, I wouldn't recommend it. Doing so only makes the material thicker - which will muddy up / blur your image... and make the overall amount of light passing through the screen... less. Meaning, your image will be super dim / not very visible.
Hope this helps.
Pastor,
ReplyDeleteI think it is great that you shared your accomplishment with others. I am an AV Director and the Church I am supporting worships in elementary auditorium. SO we have setup and break down every Sunday.
My Lead Pastor wants to have video presentations. Here are my questions;
What gauge of the frost curtain did you use
What size fit the frame you had 72" or 102"
How long did it take to setup
Thanks,
Peace and Blessing
Just received another question in this thread - somehow missed yours. I'm sorry. :-(
DeleteIf you click under the video on youtube, where it says "Show More" - it lists out all the parts with links... so you can find your curtain answer there. Here's a direct link though to the exact curtain I used: http://www.amazon.com/InterDesign-X-Wide-Shower-Curtain-Liner/dp/B003M6ANPG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1358721403&sr=8-3&keywords=xwide+shower+curtain
Sorry if this isn't relevant to you anymore. Not sure how I missed your question. I usually receive emails automatically on any posts here but... don't recall ever seeing yours. Again, I apologize.
Don't images show up in reverse when projecting through a screen? How do you make them show up correctly - especially important for words. Are you projecting on the wall behind first, and that image shows up on the screen?
ReplyDeleteAll modern projectors have a "rear projection" setting. In that mode, it reverses the image so that the image is "correct" when viewed from the front of the screen.
DeleteWas your frost side out towards the audience or was it facing the projectors? I too am a Pastor and this is great! Thanks for sharing all this information and innovation!
ReplyDeleteYour welcome! :-) And as to which side faced out... to be honest, I'm not sure? I don't recall even ever paying attention to that... so we probably had at least one of the 3 screens setup different than the others! :-) ...but, no problems. Works well. In total I made 6 screens, 3 of one size, 3 of another (for two different size venues). All worked well... and I never paid any attention to "which side" - so if it were an issue I'm sure I'd of seen it in at least one of the 6. If you test and find differently, please let me know so I can answer better next time I get this question. :-) Thanks!
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